Blue Phoenix Ace Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 3 hours ago, aroMa(n)tisse said: I think people who have never been there are supposed to emulate a hypothetical romantic relationship in their imagination and answer how they would feel if they were 'in love' the way they tend to do (e.g. if they formed a couple with someone they'd have a self-proclaimed 'squish' on). Hmm yeah I could agree with that. I did the best I could and mustered a whopping 11. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgypotato Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I think we should keep in mind that the author of this test is trying to convince people that this kind of love is an illness. There's a lot of bias in this quiz. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 For the record, I do agree that the quiz is biased, that many of the questions measure an extreme/pathological version of love, etc. However, the fact that it seems to accurately and consistently distinguish aromantics from alloromantics (although not so much aro-spec people, who have gotten scores all across the board) makes it most likely the best starting point we have in figuring out romantic attraction--I don't know of anything else that set out to define romantic attraction and actually achieved this degree of success, even if the quiz itself is based on some iffy stuff. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgypotato Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Jade said: For the record, I do agree that the quiz is biased, that many of the questions measure an extreme/pathological version of love, etc. However, the fact that it seems to accurately and consistently distinguish aromantics from alloromantics (although not so much aro-spec people, who have gotten scores all across the board) makes it most likely the best starting point we have in figuring out romantic attraction--I don't know of anything else that set out to define romantic attraction and actually achieved this degree of success, even if the quiz itself is based on some iffy stuff. Of course. However I just thought we should keep it in mind. I was mostly saying it in response to people's concerns at how damn creepy and unhealthy some of the points are. They're exaggerated due to the bias of the author, I believe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojote Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 There are some well researched ones, like the Attraction Questionnaire. Plus there's tons of studies on romance, using tests. Sadly most of them are not really open to the public, or, if they are their scoring system isn't made public as they usually require a test analyst. A lack of romantic attraction however, is still way understudied... which is why being aro just results in low scores and isn't overly classified =\ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Kojote said: There are some well researched ones, like the Attraction Questionnaire. Plus there's tons of studies on romance, using tests. Sadly most of them are not really open to the public, or, if they are their scoring system isn't made public as they usually require a test analyst. A lack of romantic attraction however, is still way understudied... which is why being aro just results in low scores and isn't overly classified =\ Is there anywhere online where the Attraction Questionnaire is available (and able to be scored..) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojote Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Just now, Jade said: Is there anywhere online where the Attraction Questionnaire is available (and able to be scored..) ? Not that I know, sry. I just remember it from one if the articles back when I still studied psychology, but I was never big on the romantic topics (for, in retrospect, obvious reasons), so I never took it myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jade Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kojote said: Not that I know, sry. I just remember it from one if the articles back when I still studied psychology, but I was never big on the romantic topics (for, in retrospect, obvious reasons), so I never took it myself... So... unless I find a better alternative I think I'll stick to seeing how this quiz works out, and then maybe working with the community to design an improved version I'll definitely keep my eye out for studies of romance though, and if I come across anything interesting I'll definitely let this thread know 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiekirkland Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 4 hours ago, Jade said: So... unless I find a better alternative I think I'll stick to seeing how this quiz works out, and then maybe working with the community to design an improved version I'll definitely keep my eye out for studies of romance though, and if I come across anything interesting I'll definitely let this thread know I was just thinking about this. We could make our own quiz based on the questionnaire and advertise it for aromantics and anyone questing their romantic orientation 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Phoenix Ace Posted June 15, 2016 Share Posted June 15, 2016 I think this idea has a lot of merit. I would hate to use any verbiage that it is proof or scientific, but it's a very good starting point for someone. We could also turn the quiz into an interactive checkboxy thing that automatically tallies up your score. For every statement you agree with just click the box on. It takes a fair amount of time to take the whole test. Should we boil it down a bit? Could we have an even simpler version of the quiz with just ten questions and then say, well maybe you should take the full text now? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiekirkland Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Blue Phoenix Ace said: I think this idea has a lot of merit. I would hate to use any verbiage that it is proof or scientific, but it's a very good starting point for someone. We could also turn the quiz into an interactive checkboxy thing that automatically tallies up your score. For every statement you agree with just click the box on. It takes a fair amount of time to take the whole test. Should we boil it down a bit? Could we have an even simpler version of the quiz with just ten questions and then say, well maybe you should take the full text now? Yeah like if you got above 30 or 40% it suggests to take the real test for more accurate results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Phoenix Ace Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Sure, something like that. I will try to get in contact with James and see if he's OK with us using the questionnaire on our site. I found his email address and reached out to him. We'll see if we get a response. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulWolf Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I got about 15-20 on the test. 20 is kind of pushing it, and I'm not sure I interpreted all the questions correctly. Some of them kind of half-applied but not really. But most of the time I was looking through the points and going "WTF, is this seriously what most other people experience, and they LIKE IT?!" ... I think it's safe to say that those times when I thought I was in love, I wasn't really, and I've been misunderstanding sooo many things people have said all along. And I've actually been in 3 relationships. All 3 times it was like "well, this person likes me, and he seems like a cool person with good qualities, maybe I should see if I can muster up some feelings for him"... and I could muster up something, sure... something like love, but nothing crazy like this romantic nonsense. On 17 June 2016 at 0:46 AM, Blue Phoenix Ace said: Sure, something like that. I will try to get in contact with James and see if he's OK with us using the questionnaire on our site. I found his email address and reached out to him. We'll see if we get a response. Did anything ever come of that? It'd be an awesome test to have in checkboxy form... and maybe a bit shorter. Something easier for people to get through, because I'd really love to know what scores people I know IRL get... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedNeko Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 22 hours ago, SoulWolf said: But most of the time I was looking through the points and going "WTF, is this seriously what most other people experience, and they LIKE IT?!" ... I feel like people are getting the wrong impression from the quizz: there are plenty of things in those questions that most people (aro or not) would definitely agree are creepy/inappropriate/maybe illegal. Don't worry, the world isn't filled with creeps. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rising Sun Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Honestly this test has more stereotypes than true characteristics of romance. There are items that can make the difference, but the majority of items is more associated to cultural influence on romance and delusional mental disorders. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Phoenix Ace Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 On 7/24/2016 at 2:28 PM, SoulWolf said: Did anything ever come of that? It'd be an awesome test to have in checkboxy form... and maybe a bit shorter. Something easier for people to get through, because I'd really love to know what scores people I know IRL get... I got a response to my email saying he wanted to take a look around the site before agreeing to anything. I guess he's taking a really close look because that was several weeks ago and I haven't heard back yet. Maybe he is devising an experiment for us in his lab. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nai Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Romantic here agreeing that the quiz was very weird and kind of concerning. After taking it (got a 92) it made me feel almost guilty for experiencing romantic attraction. I feel like some of the questions were kind of over exaggerating what romantic attraction is. I, for one, would never kill someone because of a bad breakup. Jeez. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cute kitty Meow! Mewo! Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 I find the thinking aro often misrepresents romanticism and love with a negative or shallow vantage. I find the same of the Quiz. I don't think it's a good idea to use that quiz as a starting point, because even though it is thorough, there is a significant chance that it would influence any derivative quiz negatively. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 On 25/07/2016 at 6:35 PM, Rising Sun said: Honestly this test has more stereotypes than true characteristics of romance. There are items that can make the difference, but the majority of items is more associated to cultural influence on romance and delusional mental disorders. IMHO society and culture are hugely important when it comes to both both how romance is expressed and how it can be treated as such an important (and expected) form of behaviour. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cute kitty Meow! Mewo! Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 I really don't agree with the conclusion that romance is a construct of society. our culture historically just developed to be better able to express their feelings with words. as a non romantic person, TBH, I find any language that implies social romantic ideals as fake or contrived to be a little disheartening. I mean I definitely agree that the pressure to be romantic that I feel as an aromantic is quite aggravating, but I still don't feel comfortable downright insulting romance just because it makes me unhappy... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ettina Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I got a 20, based on a mix of squishes and how I'd imagine that I would feel if I was in a romantic relationship. So I guess I'm in the aromantic range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Amethysts Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 On 28/07/2016 at 3:29 AM, cute kitty Meow! Mewo! said: I really don't agree with the conclusion that romance is a construct of society. our culture historically just developed to be better able to express their feelings with words. as a non romantic person, TBH, I find any language that implies social romantic ideals as fake or contrived to be a little disheartening. I mean I definitely agree that the pressure to be romantic that I feel as an aromantic is quite aggravating, but I still don't feel comfortable downright insulting romance just because it makes me unhappy... Yeah, I don`t quite agree with that nowadays either. On 27/07/2016 at 10:44 AM, cute kitty Meow! Mewo! said: I find the thinking aro often misrepresents romanticism and love with a negative or shallow vantage. I find the same of the Quiz. I don't think it's a good idea to use that quiz as a starting point, because even though it is thorough, there is a significant chance that it would influence any derivative quiz negatively. Don`t you dare mention that vile excuse for an intellectual. I legit hate that person so much. Warning point in 3, 2, 1.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiekirkland Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Ace of Amethysts said: Don`t you dare mention that vile excuse for an intellectual. I legit hate that person so much. Warning point in 3, 2, 1.... Hopefully not, because you only insulted someone who isn't on Arocalypse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Amethysts Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Why would it matter then? Just wondering. Also, sorry for the anger. Just needed to get that out. Edit: typo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ettina Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 On 7/26/2016 at 4:34 PM, Blue Phoenix Ace said: I got a response to my email saying he wanted to take a look around the site before agreeing to anything. I guess he's taking a really close look because that was several weeks ago and I haven't heard back yet. Maybe he is devising an experiment for us in his lab. Did you ever get an answer from him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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