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  1. Seems more likely to be "seven different kinds of crap" in practice. With maybe some overlap at times. Something of a facepalm.
  2. I think XKCD may have got there first. It can seem at times that a lot of "aromantic terms" follow Unix Standards.
  3. This is also the case with racial categories and terms to describe urban areas. Including, those such as Singapore, where the country comprises a single city state. This seems an odd omission. Since I'd have expected those preparing the survey to be familiar with countries, such as the USA, which have a huge range of population density. With both isolated single dwellings and huge cities. The caveat to always include an "other" option applies here. There also may be people who live on ships, military bases, etc.
  4. It might be better to say they intersect. I wonder if if this might describe the majority of "aspec" projects, groups, organisations, etc.
  5. Rather depends what is and isn't included in it...
  6. IMHO a term like "romo-platonic relationship" would make rather more sense here. It makes no sense at all for two allo aces to use aro to describe their romantic relationship. Both romantic relationships and QPRs are abstract concepts. So I'm not sure how this makes any sense Ditto. Is this an allo ace (or AVEN) thing? AFAIK allo allos in mainstream society just use "(romantic) relationship" regardless of if they kiss, cuddle, have sex, etc. The looks like a variation on the amantonormative meme that everyone wants to be coupled. I suspect that only a minority of aros actually are interested in QPRs (of any form). This looks like an expression of relationship (type) hierarchy. I've always found this kind of statement oxymoronic. Even reading the post from 2011 it's unclear what it's intended meaning and audience is. Could it be intended for sex favourable asexuals rather than allosexuals?
  7. Experiencing or not experiencing a certain type of attraction does not determine what kind of interpersonal relationships people actually want. Even many alloromantics have little interest in being in a romantic relationship. Some common definitions of QPRs seem rather compatible with amantonormativity. Especially in terms of ranking relationship types by "closeness". There are also people who are only interested in non-monogamous relationships. Be that sexual, social, structural or emotional monogamy. Amantonormative societies are as much mononormative as they are romonormative.
  8. The other way this can go is the assumption that people who are not interested in couple type relationships must prefer to do things by themselves.
  9. I think we really need something similar for aros.
  10. I'm thinking of how this meme might apply. Accessibility: Being able to get into the building. Diversity: Getting invited to the table. Inclusion: Having a voice. Belonging: Being listened to.
  11. It's definitely from an ace perspective. Can't see anything obviously allo aro applicable. In terms of The Golden Orchid association this existed long before romantic relationships (and marriage) became normative. Which happened later in China than Europe, possibly even post 1949. This Kinsey reference seems to be more about the desexualisation of disabled people too. It's the all too common issue of the only depiction of aro being in an ace context. Which tends to imply aro as a subset of ace. Even without the intent of allo aro erasure this is a problem. Even if you treat the last one as a kind of split attraction it's unclear if "affectional" is intended to mean "romantic" or not.
  12. That would be an example of a backronym. The word "cis" is a Latin prefix meaning "on this side of". It's a, mutual, antonym with "trans". Which translates as "across from" or "on the other side of". The term for this is periorinted, which is a majority (~85%) situation. Whilst the asexual community has had some success in challenging this assumption for asexual alloromantics nothing similar has happened for allosexual aromantics. (Nor for heterosexual homoromantics or homosexual heteroromantics who are also exclusively varioriented. Though there could be a lot of "overlapping varioriented" people who assume they are periorinted. e.g. heterosexual biromantics.) Possibly romance (including seeking romance) makes sex acceptable in sex negative societies. When it comes to child acceptable, safe for work, consent, harassment, etc there are huge differences when it comes to social attitudes towards romance and sex. I wonder if romance, rather than sex, is key in respect of amatonormativity.
  13. Also using in avoiding the use of a double negative. There' s also the issues of aro being, often, being seen as a subset of ace and the "right person" meme. There needs to be more diversity of aro content. Since aro ace content may be unhelpful to aro allos. Whilst at the same time, mistakenly, seen as "general aro".
  14. Here, AUREA,etc. it would mean "alloromantic". Whereas somewhere like AVAN it would mean "asexual".
  15. Which is why I was so concerned by @Morgenfluss bringing up ace websites in this post. Which did look like they might be advocating using this as source material. Given how diverse aros are I'm uncertain how many such things there actually are. IIRC there was a Wikipedia page on aromanticism which, somehow, fell outside their rules and was deleted, There is a page on Romantic orientation Putting just about anything which starts "Aromantic" into Google tends to lead to articles about asexuality. I was asking @Morgenfluss for clarification about the "aromantic stuff on Ace sites" they brought up, along with why they though it was relevant to LGBT+ sites. IME the latter can be rather more common than the former. Possibly also something to the effect that boy/girl friend is a friend you have sex with. Prior to encountering the aro community I had never known it meaning anything other than "non-sexual" maybe also "non romantic" as a consequence of romantic coding of sex. The closest I can find to your definition is Merriam-Webster with ": of, relating to, or being a relationship marked by the absence of romance or sex". Though that could also mean "non-sexual, can be romantic" as well as "non-romantic and non-sexual". TBH I'd rather avoid using 'platonic' at all. It's, unfortunately, only a start. There's a lack of vocabulary for nonromantic sexual relationships (and attraction). The sex is a keyword whilst romance issue is one of the many ways in which sex and romance are treated differently. Hence conflating asexuality and aromanticism, including the idea that aces and aros face similar problems, can be such a problem.
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