Magni Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Coyote said: Then you are invited to ask me some direct questions to which I can provide direct answers, because I don't know where to start unless you give me a starting point. In that post, for instance, I've talked some about where "SAM" came from and how it's been reclaimed. I've talked some about where applying that SAM/non-SAM binary to people doesn't work. I've talked some about my thoughts on how we can do better. What part can I help you with? Answers is good if able to be brief? Like....I generally want the bulleted list/power point/TLDR version. Yeah idk origins of SAM and what you mean about it being reclaimed Honestly I don't even understand why there is a "SAM/non-SAM binary", much less what's wrong with it. How do you even define the SAM? I think I kinda use it as listing both romantic and sexual orientation....idk if that's even a correct definition or what other ways people have been using it because apparently there's multiple definitions Sidenote: You edited the original post and like....I'd strongly suggest paragraph breaks? And maybe some sort of summarizing title? I could barely process it before and now it's even longer and harder to read. Hmmm....as I said, distancing from terms makes sense. However, it seems like....terms are replaced with complicated definitions which makes everything longer and more confusing? 2 hours ago, Coyote said: Honestly the #1 way to make community discussion more accessible would be to stop having so disproportionately much of it happen exclusively on Tumblr, but I digress. I disagree, I think tumblr makes it easier for people to at least gain access to discussions. Overall, I think the best thing is using multiple platforms but tying them together more. I won't elaborate here; I'm working on making a new topic/thread about how to facilitate communication/accessibility for community discussions in general. 2 hours ago, Coyote said: I don't care how new or old it is. My thinking is -- and this may be too strong of a comparison, but -- calling some attractions "tertiary" feels a little like calling a nonbinary person "third gender." It inherently implies a first and second for there to be a third. That represents basically the exact same centering of romance and sexuality that I want to call into question here. I think tertiary has a different connotation than third? Third is more order/rank....I don't consider tertiary to be ranked? (I tried to explain this with color analogy)....I think I perceive it more as being a third layer in the sense it is less visible but also more detailed. And my point about age was that....in the interest of clear communication, you shouldn't just throw out an established term without replacing it AND having the new proposed term be at least somewhat agreed upon? Tertiary has been established thus I will use it unless I've been convinced there's a better term and/or the overall community adopts a new term. However, we should stop debating this here; I made a new post for discussing tertiary attraction in general . In the meantime, I'll use tertiary attraction as relevant in this discussion and you can use what you want, but we need not debate/critique it here further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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