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I AM WONDERING THE SAME THING. CLC IS VERY QUIET TONIGHT. 

 

WELL I WAS BEING PRODUCTIVE PLAYING FALLOUT. I FOUND A SATELLITE ARRAY AND CLIMBED ON TOP. CAN'T DO IT IN REAL LIFE, BUT AT LEAST I GOT TO DO IT IN-GAME. :D 

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I WAS BEING PRODUCTIVE PLAYING GAMES TOO  X D  I JUST FOUND OUT THAT THE 3DS MY SISTER GAVE ME WAS STILL USING HER ACCOUNT... I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ACCOUNTS WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THE 3DS  X D  I'M STILL STUCK IN THE MINDSET OF THE REGULAR DS. THERES TOO MANY FANCY THINGS ON THE 3DS. I BOUGHT HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN FOR GAMECUBE THE OTHER DAY. I'M GONNA GO PLAY THAT. IT'S WAY TOO QUITE HERE.

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THANK YOU, IT WAS SOOOOO GOOD! ALSO THIS BOOK I'M PREPARING WITH FOR THE TOEFL TEST COMPLETELY IGNORES THE EXISTENCE OF SINGULAR THEY PRONOUNS AND MAYBE IMPLIES THAT IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE TO USE IN GOOD WRITING. ONLY MAYBE THOUGH, IT'S NOT REALLY CLEAR. BUT IT STILL ANNOYS ME.

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LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED SO MUCH, HONESTLY NOWADAYS IT'S OKAY TO USE SINGULAR "THEY" IN PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING EXCEPT THE MOST FORMAL OF WRITING. JUST BECAUSE THAT TENDS TO BE SUPER CONSERVATIVE . (WELL, AND IF YOUR PREFERRED PRONOUN IS 'THEY' THEN OBVIOUSLY IT'S FINE TO USE EVERYWHERE.) 

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IT'S NOT MY PREFERRED PRONOUN, BUT IT'S JUST SO WEIRD TO ME THAT THIS BOOK PRETENDS THERE'S ONLY HE OR SHE... I JUST LOOKED IT UP AND IT'S FROM 2011, SO IT MIGHT BE JUST TOO OLD. I JUST FEEL LIKE FOR ME SINGULAR THEY PRONOUNS HAVE EXISTED IN ENGLISH FOR AS LONG AS I REMEMBER... I USED SINGULAR THEY BEFORE I EVEN KNEW THAT PREFERRED PRONOUNS EXIST, LIKE WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE WITHOUT KNOWING IF I'M TALKING ABOUT A BOY OR A GIRL.

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3 hours ago, Vega said:

YEAH I'VE SEEN "THEY" USED FOR SINGULAR FOR A LONG TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MUCH OLDER THAN THE 1990S, SINCE FOR A LONG TIME "HE" WAS THE DEFAULT NONGENDERED PRONOUN. 

 

THERE ARE A BUNCH OF SITUATIONS WHERE "THEY" HAS ALWAYS WORKED PRETTY WELL AS A SINGULAR PRONOUN, AT LEAST COLLOQUIALLY.

 

THAT SAID, I STILL WOULD PREFER THERE TO BE A NEW WORD BECAUSE "THEY" IS REALLY AGENDER, RATHER THAN GENDERLESS. BUT ANYONE AGENDER SHOULD ALSO USE THE NEW ONE BECAUSE "THEY" IS ALSO TAKEN TO BE PLURAL. IT JUST SEEMS AWKWARD AND DEMEANING TO ME WHEN PEOPLE USE IT. BUT IF THEY WANT TO USE IT AS A SINGULAR, I DON'T REALLY MIND.

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1 hour ago, DeMorgan said:

 

THERE ARE A BUNCH OF SITUATIONS WHERE "THEY" HAS ALWAYS WORKED PRETTY WELL AS A SINGULAR PRONOUN, AT LEAST COLLOQUIALLY.

 

THAT SAID, I STILL WOULD PREFER THERE TO BE A NEW WORD BECAUSE "THEY" IS REALLY AGENDER, RATHER THAN GENDERLESS. BUT ANYONE AGENDER SHOULD ALSO USE THE NEW ONE BECAUSE "THEY" IS ALSO TAKEN TO BE PLURAL. IT JUST SEEMS AWKWARD AND DEMEANING TO ME WHEN PEOPLE USE IT. BUT IF THEY WANT TO USE IT AS A SINGULAR, I DON'T REALLY MIND.

I DON'T KNOW... EVEN BEFORE I EVEN KNEW AGENDER/NON-BINARY EXISTED, AS A CHILD, I USED THEY JUST TO REFER TO ANYONE I DIDN'T KNOW THE GENDER OF. IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY CATCH-ALL TERM AND I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN ANYONE BE OFFENDED BY BEING CALLED "THEY" BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY GENDER-NEUTRAL. OF COURSE, IF PEOPLE ASK YOU TO USE OTHER PRONOUNS, YOU SHOULDN'T GENDER THEM, BUT "THEY" SEEMS PRETTY NEUTRAL. IT IS WHAT PEOPLE USE WHEN NO PRONOUNS ARE PROVIDED, ANYWAY.

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I THINK IT'S BETTER THAN IN GERMAN, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PRONOUNS LIKE THAT OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

 

BUT ANYWAY I JUST TOOK A PRACTICE TOEFL TEST AND FOUND OUT THAT MY READING AND LISTENING SKILLS ARE GOOD, MY WRITING SKILLS ARE FINE TOO, BUT MY SPEAKING SKILLS ARE ABSOLUTELY HORRENDOUS... I WAS STAMMERING COMPLETE NONSENSE :/ AND I ONLY MANAGED TO GET 88 POINTS ON THAT PRACTICE TEST, BUT I NEED AT LEAST 90 :(

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MY FIRST LANGUAGE HAS NO HE/SHE, JUST ONLY ONE PRONOUN, AND ITS GENDER NEUTRAL? EVERY TIME I NEED TO TALK ABOUT SOMEONE IN THIS GENDER BINARY OBSESSED LANGUAGE, MY BRAIN GOES "UHHH....LETS....SEE...HE...SHE...THEM...WHAT?"

2 hours ago, aihpen said:

I THINK IT'S BETTER THAN IN GERMAN, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PRONOUNS LIKE THAT OF MY KNOWLEDGE.

 

 I THINK THE WORST GENDER PRONOUN CRIME IS IN FINNISH. THEY ALSO LACK THE GENDERED CRAP, BUT INSTEAD OF USING THAT NEUTRAL PRONOUN, THEY CALL PEOPLE "SE" (="IT"), BECAUSE "HÄN" SOUNDS PRETENTIOUS?

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