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Can I ask about mental illness? Where do it go (if it even fit in the list) . Because peoples can't agree on that it seem. Sometime they say it's a neurodivergeance, sometime not so i want to ask you what you think about it. (i mean… i can be healed and it's actually an illness, so…it is really a neurodivergeance?). And sometime they say it's a disability. Idk

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8 minutes ago, Cristal Gris said:

Can I ask about mental illness? Where do it go (if it even fit in the list) . Because peoples can't agree on that it seem. Sometime they say it's a neurodivergeance, sometime not so i want to ask you what you think about it. (i mean… i can be healed and it's actually an illness, so…it is really a neurodivergeance?). And sometime they say it's a disability. Idk

Hmm fair question! I'd say under neurodivergence, as thats how I identify my mental illness, but, for ease; I've added a mental illness option if that makes it easier :) 

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Just now, eOrion said:

Hmm fair question! I'd say under neurodivergence, as thats how I identify my mental illness, but, for ease; I've added a mental illness option if that makes it easier :) 

Alright ! Thank you !

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I have severe ADHD, ARFID, inappropriate sinus tachycardia, and anaphylaxis.

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I said I suspected, because I never see a therapist (not enough money,  plus in France we are late for these questions).

 

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I have problems with anxiety and depression. I suspect I may have ADHD, but I could never tell my parents that to actually get any kind of treatment or even an evaluation.

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I have ADHD and I suspect I'm somewhere on or near the autism spectrum. I think this intersects with aromanticism. There's just so much I don't get about neurotypical people! :D I think my neurodivergence makes me a bit more analytical and a bit of an outsider.

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On 7/14/2019 at 12:35 PM, Cristal Gris said:

Can I ask about mental illness? Where do it go (if it even fit in the list) . Because peoples can't agree on that it seem. Sometime they say it's a neurodivergeance, sometime not so i want to ask you what you think about it. (i mean… i can be healed and it's actually an illness, so…it is really a neurodivergeance?). And sometime they say it's a disability. Idk

I don't personally like to conflate mental illness with neurodivergence since it's different to have Autism for example than it is to have anxiety, it also waters down just how much neurological disabilities can affect those who live with them beyond their mental health. 

 

I have Autism. I do believe that it does play a role in my lack of understanding when it comes to romantic attraction, and it does for autistic alloromantics as well I'm sure. I also think that some autistic asexuals may feel this way about sexual attraction. I also have trouble making friends, am touch averse (unless I really trust you), and I do get more stressed when I'm not alone. 

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3 hours ago, TripleA said:

I don't personally like to conflate mental illness with neurodivergence since it's different to have Autism for example than it is to have anxiety, it also waters down just how much neurological disabilities can affect those who live with them beyond their mental health. 

I understand that and i agree. I am just a bit confused about how some peoples use it ^^ Sometime, they put the two together so i prefered to ask

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depression.  i also put neurodiverse (although i think it's 'neurodivergent') because it's defined as having a brain which functions differently from an average, healthy brain.  with chronic depression, that's what's happening.  and about 7% of people have it.  if that weren't enough, i'm gifted, which only about 2% of people are.  so that's unhealthy, and above average.  

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I'm autistic and have BPD

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I have persistant depressive disorder, panic disorder and mild OCD diagnosed and suspect ADHD, anxiety disorder and being somewhat autistic.

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I don't really feel like the healthiest person mentally speaking but I'm apparentlly not mentally ill. Doctors have never diagnosed me with anything...to be confirmed. 

When I was a child our family doctor said that I was fine and not depressive thought I used to be really negative about life. I used many personal coping mechanisms (cynism, lack of trust, lack of ambition, addictions, delusions) so I never got into spectacular trouble. I was always reasonable, introvert and - most importantly - good at school so my parent would never have sent me to a psychiatrist.

When I peaked in my 20s and early 30s I was genuinely happy but still very much aromantic.

Now I have some anxiety issues but again a counselor told me that I'm fine, I just need to rest (for how long?) and no drugs can help me. Nobody else is looking after me so I'm going to double check this with a specialist...

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On 7/14/2019 at 9:35 PM, Guest said:

Can I ask about mental illness? Where do it go (if it even fit in the list) . Because peoples can't agree on that it seem. Sometime they say it's a neurodivergeance, sometime not so i want to ask you what you think about it. (i mean… i can be healed and it's actually an illness, so…it is really a neurodivergeance?). And sometime they say it's a disability. Idk

 

On 9/26/2019 at 12:06 PM, TripleA said:

I don't personally like to conflate mental illness with neurodivergence since it's different to have Autism for example than it is to have anxiety, it also waters down just how much neurological disabilities can affect those who live with them beyond their mental health. 

 

I am a autistic. Even for things like autism there's a pretty heavy dose of self-identification at the moment. Lots of people prefer neurodivergent and lots of people prefer disabled. Some like both! Neurodivergence is about brain structure though. This doesn't mean from birth, though. Things like PTSD end up rewiring the brain over time and often qualify too. Neurodiversity is more about recognising that not everyones brain works in the same way than it is about any specific condition that causes someone to be neurodivergent. For my money, I'm less worried about who is using it and more about the concept underpinning it - acceptance and understanding of people who behave and act differently to myself.

 

On 9/26/2019 at 4:19 PM, aro_elise said:

i also put neurodiverse (although i think it's 'neurodivergent')

 

I am neurodivergent, we are neurodiverse. 'Neurodiverse' is the plural of 'neurodivergent'.

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On 3/17/2020 at 9:12 PM, Momo said:

 

 

I am a autistic. Even for things like autism there's a pretty heavy dose of self-identification at the moment. Lots of people prefer neurodivergent and lots of people prefer disabled. Some like both! Neurodivergence is about brain structure though. This doesn't mean from birth, though. Things like PTSD end up rewiring the brain over time and often qualify too. Neurodiversity is more about recognising that not everyones brain works in the same way than it is about any specific condition that causes someone to be neurodivergent. For my money, I'm less worried about who is using it and more about the concept underpinning it - acceptance and understanding of people who behave and act differently to myself.

 

 

I am neurodivergent, we are neurodiverse. 'Neurodiverse' is the plural of 'neurodivergent'.

I've heard neurodiverse was created for just those with autism, adhd, etc. and doesn't include those with mental illnesses

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37 minutes ago, TripleA said:

I've heard neurodiverse was created for just those with autism, adhd, etc. and doesn't include those with mental illnesses

It was created for autism first. And then I think it was extented to other things,  but not mental illness I think (if I am wrong, correct me).

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10 hours ago, TripleA said:

I've heard neurodiverse was created for just those with autism, adhd, etc. and doesn't include those with mental illnesses

 

Illness implies something temporary. If you can get better from it then it's definitely not something that can be included underneath neurodiversity. If it's something that permanently changes you like PTSD and especially C-PTSD usually does (as one example) then it's a little more grey and people start fighting over definitions. Personally, I do include those people if they wish to be. As I mentioned, the neurodiversity movement really isn't about exact 'conditions', it's about acceptance of different peoples experiences and reactions to outcomes that may be different to your own.

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Ooh interesting thread.

 

I am neurodivergent bc I have ADHD (and possibly autism too).  I am somewhat physically disabled due to various things.  I also marked mentally ill bc I have depression.  I would consider depression to fall more under mentally ill, though people could also feel it falls under neurodivergent bc sometimes it is something that is permanent even if manageable, whereas I consider my ADHD to be neurodivergent and not mental illness.  Overall, the categories should be vague and allow room for people to self define what fits them best.

Also, I just generally think it's fascinating how so many aros do seem to be neurodivergent with stuff like ADHD or autism, it's like ah yes I have found the people who are like me in many many ways :)

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I'm dyslexic... which I guess would fall under neurodivergent on this list although learning disabilities are often classed as there own thing.

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I used to have social anxiety (professionally diagnosed), and I have OCD. I also have type 2 diabetes, which is not really a disability, except under the ADA where it is defined as one.....but that's just to keep employers from discriminating

On 3/22/2020 at 12:44 AM, Momo said:

 

Illness implies something temporary. If you can get better from it then it's definitely not something that can be included underneath neurodiversity. If it's something that permanently changes you like PTSD and especially C-PTSD usually does (as one example) then it's a little more grey and people start fighting over definitions. Personally, I do include those people if they wish to be. As I mentioned, the neurodiversity movement really isn't about exact 'conditions', it's about acceptance of different peoples experiences and reactions to outcomes that may be different to your own.

Some mental illnesses are temporary, and some are permanent. OCD is considered a chronic, possibly lifelong disorder. I first started experiencing OCD tendencies at 11 years old. For me, my obsessive periods come and go, and can stay away for a long time before something triggers them to come back. So mine would probably be categorized as "mild", though my episodes themselves certainly are not mild and are highly distressing when I do get them!
I do think I am fully recovered from social anxiety, but I have a friend who has always had it since she was a young child and probably always will.

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Disabled and neurodiverse.  Sensory processing disorder, aspergers and tourette’s syndrome.  Unofficially I have fibromyalgia and a circadian rhythm disorder but I’ve never gotten a formal diagnosis for them.  People just assumed it was part of the other conditions.

It is a disability because it makes certain things impossible or dangerous for me to do.  Sleep deprivation, malnutrition and being unable to move without pain or think clearly are hazards.  I’ve been kicked out of/harassed out of apartments over my tourettes too, and at this point it’s not worth the fuss of pursuing legal action.

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I put neurodivergent and mentally ill.

I have ADHD (diagnosed since I was fifteen) and I was diagnosed with a moderate depressive episode when I was fourteen but that probably was merely a peak of feeling like shit due to underlying issues. Seeing the developement of my mental health over the last years I think it might be another type of affective disorder, possibly something like cyclothymia. Also, I used to have panic attacks quite frequently since november 2019 but I didn't really have any attacks for the last two or three months or so.

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Many people I interact with who are ND (in the aro community especially, which is interesting) tell me I also have ND vibes but what exactly underlies that I have no clue. 😅 I've struggled with pretty severe chronic anxiety all my life, while other things like depression come and go with treatment. So I'm not sure if my anxiety's anxiety or if it's a front for something else.

It's comforting to see others in the aro community who have had similar experiences with various physiological conditions, even though we're kind of all connecting through pain. We're still goin'.

I don't think it interacts with my aromanticism, personally, but I am always interested in reading others' stories about how their conditions and aromanticism influence each other.

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