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  1. So I think I've said everything I wanted, really everything. If you wanna continue arguing, just reread all my previous comments (because I see that some people don't do this). The only proper criticism I received (not in easy way) was from nonmercy and I answered all the questions. Guys, who came recently, you are really late. Yes, I know you think your opinion is really important but you just say the same thing as other users. Have a nice day and move on.
  2. It' s a secret, you have you to do it yourself Look at key words. Well, I said my opinion, people continue to write, I answer to some people. I've never had such a big company, so why don't talk a bit. I just don't like saying the same things again and again.
  3. Well, it's your opinion and I have mine. The thing is, again, to explain something to user who never heard about aromanticism and these definitions. Also QPR is really vague, so there's no true definitions. You can Google it and some sources clearly state that it's more than friendship. I just showed why some people think of it as a friendship and some not. This was the main message. Again, guys, you exaggerate, most of users won't even notice it or change their mind. It doesn't work that way. To bring the real message we have to make another infographic where aromanticism will be the main topic. But even that may not help. Read more slowly, you will notice that this scale illustrates one of the questions.
  4. You could find link to a better version and my explanation why didn't I include family in my post and comments. Again aromanticism isn't the main topic in the guide. The scale is just a tool, not a message itself. People on reddit liked it, I met only one comment about scale, I explained and they didn't answer. Also some people asked what can be considered romantic (this is kinda vague too as definition just uses word love). Other users explained based on their experience. It's not about aromantics, everyone can be in QPR. There are no mentions of aromantics but just aspec community.
  5. I was just trying to prove my point and stand myself. You ask me the same questions, I answer with the same answers. I explained couple of times why it wasn't such a bad thing and said how it helps for people to understand things. Because as you said art is hard. Well, yes it's pointless. I again just keep saying the same things. The scale isn't the main thing of the guide and people outside aspec community don't care about amatonormative it is or not because they already live in amatonormative society.
  6. I was talking about your comment. Because your part about not taking criticism came out of nowhere after I tried to explain the same thing three times. Even your questions show that you didn't really read that I've answered you the first time. Again, I explain vague term with something that people know because even resources I used couldn't give a clear image of it and why it's not considered just friendship. Everyone experience is different as it was shown. I used everything I could to bringing information to people. You keep saying about some other ways but I don't see any. Well, that's why I tried to keep the scale that way: for people to understand that. That's the point of infographic. I'm really talkative tonight, also I just care about your sleep.
  7. Guys, go to sleep. I already have said that I'm not going to change it and all my explanations go to how art, infographics and bringing information to people work (it can be earned only with experience) or you just ask me questions which I've answered before and "it's wrong because some people don't think so".
  8. About the fifth argument. I've already tried to make you pay attention in the first messages that there are no other types of relationship because it's oversimplifies. Most people know what romantic love is (even kids). Again it's how infographic supposed to be: concise and clear.
  9. Well, you didn't have to acknowledge me about it and make provocative comments. I just thought when people shut up, they don't say anything. 1. I didn't prolong the scale because it takes place on image and explanation wasn't targeted on it. 2. I've already explained option with putting something else and removing completely. 3. If I put something next to the scale, it would have look completely out of place and fail composition (I know what I'm doing). Also again, infographic should give clear information, so I do it. I see it as the best option. 4. If I included more unknown words to explain my point it would confuse users reading this and they just will lose interest reading it. So I kept to explaining it through words and terms most people already know. 5. I think it just cut off, so I can't read the whole argument. 6. If I can change the whole person's opinion on relationship with one scale (that's not even the main topic of the guide) then it's something wrong with them, not the guide itself. 7. I included it because it's infographic, people understand things better with pictures and it's easier, so you don't have to write paragraphs (people don't like to read big texts too). Originally it was inspired by meme about colors. 8. People now can be insulted by everything, so I'm not surprised. I was irritated by the fact that we couldn't have a some kind of dialogue. 9. We're talking about subjective things. Some aros can think that's OK or just really don't mind it. Just accept that different opinions exist and move on. Guys, really just move on because I'm getting bored from it. Don't start with all that arophobic stuff because I'm sure aros are better than that. It's not about aromanticism, I said it four times already. You said that amatonormativity is bad, I explained that I used oversimplified amatonormative scale to explain things to people who live in amatonormative society. I think you just exaggerate things: people don't change their opinions because one scale showed them so. I think it has something to do with the fact that they lived all their life in amatonormative society.
  10. Guys, this talk is going nowhere. Yeah, I know that amatonormativity is not a good thing but explained why I chose this scale. I'm not going to change it because nobody has answered my arguments. I've talked to other people (including aromantics), they understood my point of view and they're okay with that. Move on.
  11. Well, I answered three times and you all still don't understand what I was trying to tell, I try to have a dialogue but it's useless. There can't be any discussion if you all just keep ignoring my arguments. "It's bad. Fix it" is not criticism, I explained why it's not bad and what purpose it serves.
  12. Yes, it is and you make remarks on MY topic, I explain it. If you have nothing to say, don't write me about it, I don't force you to keep commenting. I explained my point of view THREE times why it's most likely the best option. But you all just ignore my arguments writing the same thing again and again. I don't remember when such thing became criticism. I would write how criticism etiquette works but you all will ignore it anyway.
  13. I'm really tired repeating the same thoughts again and again. It's NOT about aromantic culture and its view on relationship scale. It's an image explaining queerplatonic and platonic relationships to everyone including people OUTSIDE aspec community. They don't wanna know what every aromantic think about relationship scale and make researches to understand the whole aromantic culture and its philosophy. It just explains attraction types in the most simple way, so more people could understand the point, since misunderstanding can be harmful too. The purpose of infographic is to present information clearly and quickly. If I would choose another scale it will be subjective and misleading too and it just won't be the most common point of view. Every option is subjective and based on own experience, there's NO "true" options. The thing is that this implication already exists in society and I use this to explain things to people who live in this society. They don't wanna discuss their views, look at other options, they wanna know more about attraction types, the main topic of this guide and that's all. Again, this guide is NOT about arguing position of romantic relationship, if you wanna show world your point of view then create your own infographic.
  14. Lawyers and prosecutors abuse tables while everyone in court is dressed in the most ridiculous clothes.
  15. Okay, let me explain my point of view in another way. I don't put this as the fact, the image itself tells that position of relationships is subjective. But it's not about romantic relationship, it's about queerplatonic and friendship relationships. Notice that there aren't any other kinds of relationships on the scale. In my opinion they can be over romantic partner on the scale but again this wasn't the point I was trying to make. My priority was to make it clear for everybody (like this is what infographic is supposed to do). So if I remove these or put something else, some people would be confused, considering that they deal with unknown, vague term. Like I could put family on the top but all people have different experience living in a family. Also as you and stoneandglass mentioned that aros would argue with that. But: 1. Arguments can long forever. 2. It still would be subjective. 3. The guide isn't about this, it's not about aromantic culture. And you know what all people reading this guide on the internet have in common? They all live in the society, so even true relationship anarchist aros would be familiar with society's standard view on relationship scale. So again, if you wanna argue, do this but the guide isn't about this. If you all really want it and have something to tell, we can create another infographic about all this stuff.
  16. I couldn't find a proper place to put in what this scale is measured, therefore I decided to put these ones so people could understand what I'm trying to tell. I actually see scale of relationship differently with more axes but this wasn't the point I was trying make. Also you should remember that this infographic is more for people outside of a-spec community who isn't really familiar with aromantic culture, so it's just oversimplified for better understanding. I like creating things and aspec culture is really inspiring, like I've completely changed my worldview on some things.
  17. I did my best so people outside a-spec community could understand it, therefore you can show this infographic to your friends, family or potential partners. I recommend visit this post if forum doesn't provide proper image quality.
  18. Reading and creating fanfiction give me some distraction and stress release. I had a problem with writing romance fanfiction because everything I did was awkward and I didn't feel comfortable writing it (so most of my fanfiction had some romantic relationship on background or just none). As a fanfiction reader I'm basically "came for a pairing, stayed for plot" because even if characters are to ooc (out-of-character) but I wonder what will happen next, I'll continue reading. I don't mind reading really trashy fanfictions out of curiosity and to be honest, they sometimes give more emotions. Now with aromantic culture I found out about other types of relationships and it gives me completely different picture of shipping options. About shipping real people. I have some celebrities that I like seeing together, not in romantic relationship but just doing some interactions or being dorks together. The thing I definitely don't tolerate is when some shippers bully others because in their opinion these characters can be only with each other.
  19. Hello! It's me again with another post. If you missed the first post, it's here. It seems that most of you liked new symbols and I added some more to satisfy needs of all aro-spectrum and aroace-spectrum. I hope I didn't mess up with flags (I'll remind again that flags may not make sense together, it's just a preview). If you would like to see these symbols with your own flag then feel free to dm me, I'll post it on my tumblr blog. As it was defined that romantic will be added, I decided that heart shape will match this one more than platonic. My next goal is to create some kind of map or infographic for people to navigate around these terms. Btw I'm still open for any suggestion or thoughts about the symbols. Thank you for reading my post!
  20. Thanks, I'm glad that you like it. The main idea was giving more attention to other types of attraction by creating and using own terminology and symbols to remove any confusion. Actually idea with flags just the first thing that I came up with. Yes, I think I'll add romantic (it will be useful for greyromantics, demiromantics, etc.) and sexual attraction symbols.
  21. These symbols can be used basically by anyone with any flags if they have such feelings, flags on the attached image is just a preview. Or you mean adding symbols for other types of attraction?
  22. Hello, a reddit user gave me advice to visit this forum, so here I am (yes, this is two posts connected together, so it's kinda a little retrospective). I came up with one idea and decided to share it with aromantic and aromantic asexual community. I hope that you will find it interesting or useful. So I’ve been in aspec community for a while and noticed some things: 1. People are often confused about aro/aroace community feeling attraction. Vocabulary just doesn’t reflect the true meaning of feelings behind simple and vague word “love”. 2. Card theme of aspec community is awesome but only spades are basically used for aces. 3. Fact that new aroace flag is literally Vriska palette made me to remember how card suits were used to represent different romance types of troll society. I also know that some people use its terminology in real life. So I thought why not create something similar for aro/aroace community. I don’t say that everyone has to use it but I thought that it can be useful for some members. I chose five main attraction types according to wiki (besides romantic and sexual ones) but if more is needed, I'll make some. I designed the first version of symbols and published it on tumblr (I'm not going to attach it here). One user said that aros probably would like to have their own symbols, I agreed and decided to come up with another version, with arrows as it belongs to aromantic community. Why did I choose these symbols: Platonic: The arrows are circulating to show how people in this relationship care and support each other. The second version is heart and the third one is inspired by Moirallegiance symbol. Queerplatonic: It's three arrows (like >>>) in shape of heart as QPR is a strong bond and emotional commitment. Sensual: it's inspired by Mercury symbol (☿) because in medicine it represents the sense organs. (Also it looks like holding two hands together with finger crossed but it's all upside-down). Alterous: I've done more research and discussed it with some people. I came to conclusion that this is basically when you don't care in which relationship you would like to be with that person, you just want to be closer with them. So the symbol is two double-sided arrows crossed that looks like X and represents other four attractions (and I decided to give it meaning of a variable in math, like in some equations you can put different numbers and still get a right result, so here you come up with different relationships and get the satisfying result - being with that person together). Aesthetic: it's inspired by Neptune symbol (♆) because this planet is associated with dreams/fantasy and artistry. Don't pay attention to meaning of flags, I just want to show how it would look like. I personally don't suggest creating another flags, it's only a way to represent attraction. That's all for now, I would be glad to read your thoughts or suggestions, especially about terminology because I'm bad at this. Thank you for reading my post!
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