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Does anyone know if there are any existing projects that have created / are aiming to create any kind of aro history timelines? 

 

I'm interested in maybe, eventually creating some kind of timeline / reference page with some tidbits of aro history but I don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't have to, so I'm wondering if anyone knows of anything pre-existing, or if there's anyone already working on something like this that would be interested in some help.

 

Specifically, the kinds of things I'm thinking to include are:

  • Timelines of various attempts at aro forums, including when they were founded and when they collapsed (including things like the [ace] aromantic forum-motion forum, aroplane, the first arocalypse, the second (current) arocalypse, the AVEN a/romantic orientation subforum and it's false starts, etc.) especially with notes on which were aro ace specific and which were general aro.
  • The beginnings (and ends) of various aro activist efforts and resource pages (like ASAW, the now defunct Coalition for Aromantic Visibility,  the aromantic wiki, etc.)
  • Outlines of the three main aro flag proposals and when they mostly saw use
  • The evolution of various aro community and related vocabulary, like "aromantic", "grayromantic", "gray-aromantic", "qoiromantic", "squish", "queerplatonic", etc.
  • When and where aro characters have appeared in mainstream media (jughead, that one dude from the cassandra clare books)
  • [possibly] early media coverage of aromanticism, if it seems notable, and misc. things like aromantic getting added to the OED

 

I have access to most of the sources needed for a lot of this info already, the tricky part is just getting it all organized and figuring out how to work it into something for people to actually use and understand. Also, if it sounds like I've forgotten some category of events or spaces that you think would be interesting to include, please let me know!

 

Other things that I'm not as familiar with, however, that I'd be especially interested in learning about if anyone would be willing to share their notes:

  • Any influential aromantic pages or groups on facebook, reddit, twitter, or other non-tumblr or wordpress social media (I know absolutely nothing about what is or isn't going on on facebook in particular)
  • Any non-english language activity
  • Explicit canon representation of aro characters besides bojack and rafael (I suspect there have been some webcomic and YA novel characters by now, but I don't follow either of those very closely. Also, does anyone know if Bojack has any aromantic characters? I know they named drop the word but not sure if they ever link it to any specific characters, and I don't really want to actually watch the whole show)

 

Also, if anyone has questions about aromantic history, or is intrigued by any of the mentions above and would like a link or to learn more, feel free to post a comment here and I'll try to see if I can answer them (though I might be slow) - any thing that gets me motivated to work on this more is good.

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All I know about the first forums is that there’s a link in what I think is arocalypse’s main website although accessing posts is hard. I’m very interested in the history too and I wanna know when the term aromantic even became a thing. I also know that queerplatonic came from dreamwidth so that might be a place worth looking into.

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13 minutes ago, HotRamen said:

I’m very interested in the history too and I wanna know when the term aromantic even became a thing.

 

I know Sennkestra already has some stuff on this so you might consider this to be spoilers, but the last time I asked folks for input on the origins of romantic orientation, they commented with these observations -- including an early use of "aromantic" on the Haven for the Human Amoeba group. Yahoo won't let me actually open the link though.

 

On AVEN, which was technically founded later, the first use I could find of "aromantic" was in 2006, here ... and if search results are anything to go by, it looks like it started picking up more (or at least, appearing in forum posts more frequently) in 2008.

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I think including the coming out of aro celebrates like Moses Sumney might also be good

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I still have yet to listen to Moses sumney but cavetown is also aromantic.

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1 hour ago, bananaslug said:

I think including the coming out of aro celebrates like Moses Sumney might also be good

 

Oh, yes, thank you for the reminder! I got so distracted looking up fictional aros that I completely forgot to think about non-fictional aros....

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On 3/8/2019 at 10:02 AM, sennkestra said:
  • When and where aro characters have appeared in mainstream media (jughead, that one dude from the cassandra clare books)
  • [possibly] early media coverage of aromanticism, if it seems notable, and misc. things like aromantic getting added to the OED

I think it would be important to distinguish between aro and aro ace with these.
 

On 3/8/2019 at 10:53 PM, Coyote said:

 

I know Sennkestra already has some stuff on this so you might consider this to be spoilers, but the last time I asked folks for input on the origins of romantic orientation, they commented with these observations -- including an early use of "aromantic" on the Haven for the Human Amoeba group. Yahoo won't let me actually open the link though.

 

On AVEN, which was technically founded later, the first use I could find of "aromantic" was in 2006, here ... and if search results are anything to go by, it looks like it started picking up more (or at least, appearing in forum posts more frequently) in 2008.

The split attraction model itself appears to be considerably older than any of these,

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@Mark I partly disagree. The general concept of different types of attraction is older, true. In that reply there, I was responding to HotRamen's interest in the term "aromantic" becoming a thing, so I was focused on that particular coinage, but also -- I haven't found any instances of people using the phrase "split attraction model" that early. Looking at that link you provided, I suspect it was mostly cribbed from this tumblr post, which I am currently in the process of writing a criticism of. In both of those, the "history" timelines provide some really good related information but all of them stop short of talking about any instances of the use of "split attraction model" as a phrase, which has its own history not being accounted for.

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26 minutes ago, Coyote said:

The general concept of different types of attraction is older, true. In that reply there, I was responding to HotRamen's interest in the term "aromantic" becoming a thing, so I was focused on that particular coinage, but also -- I haven't found any instances of people using the phrase "split attraction model" that early. Looking at that link you provided, I suspect it was mostly cribbed from this tumblr post, which I am currently in the process of writing a criticism of. In both of those, the "history" timelines provide some really good related information but all of them stop short of talking about any instances of the use of "split attraction model" as a phrase, which has its own history not being accounted for.

I can't see a date on either the LGBT Wiki or the tumblr, so it's unclear which might be the original and which the derived.

Note that Ulrichs could not possibly have used terms like 'heterosexual', 'homosexual' or 'bisexual' since those words didn't exist until the 20th century. With the term "split attraction model' probably being a neologism, even if the concept is older, It's also possible that amantonormativity is a requirement to develop such a concept.

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4 hours ago, Mark said:

I can't see a date on either the LGBT Wiki or the tumblr, so it's unclear which might be the original and which the derived.

All wikis come with a complete edit history - that SAM page was created in July 2018. If someone's Tumblr layout doesn't show a post date, you can always view the page source and search for the "datePublished" tag - in this case October 2016.

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It would be so interesting to have a timeline! I know I was searching around for the aromantic concept before 2009 (probably like 2007?) and found nothing

 

As for other languages, Portuguese resources links were mentioned here 

This post was a little while ago so things have probably developed more on those sites (but I don't speak Portuguese so I can't tell you)

 

and I believe @Cristal Gris has information on French language Facebook groups (? maybe?) (sorry if I've mis-mentioned you!)  

 

in the related vocabulary section it would be great to have 'amatonormativity' seeing as we talk about it so often, and the first coining of the term is .....somewhere on the forums in a link....search function has failed me!

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13 minutes ago, Apathetic Echidna said:

in the related vocabulary section it would be great to have 'amatonormativity' seeing as we talk about it so often, and the first coining of the term is .....somewhere on the forums in a link....search function has failed me!

 

@Apathetic Echidna Good idea, makes sense to have that in the timeline. And that would be coined by Elizabeth Brake in Minimizing Marriage (2012), I believe.

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@Apathetic Echidna It's ok, it was not a mistake. Well, i can ask around in the french groups i am in, there are peoples who are well renseigned.. Right now i don't know many things. You know what, i will do it right now. If i come back with interesting stuff i will tell you.

 

Edit : i Don't know if you're interested, but right now i have :

 

-arobase : a political organization created this year, in the french community. (http://aromantisme.org/?fbclid=IwAR2aOE3EZwB50dwY5ulFCzdBdxVpRTRMFC2qP8812ad9Sal8QsPXFwGd08E)

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