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Mark

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    Mark
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    Gender Queer
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    They, Mx
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    aromantic: couple, monogamy and romance repulsed.
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  1. Do you know how many people this involves and which question they stopped at? This might itself be useful data.
  2. Part of amantonormativity is to dissuade questioning of the premise that these kind of relationships are (best) for everyone. Hence ideas like "wrong person", "not ready for", etc. There are similar attitudes related to heteronormativity and mononormativity.
  3. I've always been more interested in dating than being "in a relationship". With most other people appearing to be more interested in the latter.
  4. With "family" meaning "extended family", sometimes very extended. Rather than anything like a "nuclear family". It's also a lot about money and property. For high status people this often included politics and treaties too. (In some cases marriages only to end and prevent wars.) IIRC the greedy marriage is a recent thing even within Western societies. Yet the myth of marriage being "community building" persists. There's also the "Bridal Tour" which could involve travelling with or visiting relatives and friends. Which appears to have fallen out of fashion.
  5. It would be interesting to know what these relationships were called at the time, rather than about a century later. It would also be worth knowing what romantic relationships typically looked like before the mid 19th century. These kind of relationships falling out of fashion as amantonormativity came in certainly seems significant.
  6. They are always depicted as Vees rather than triangles. Though I've always found the "pick one" rather than "both" or "neither" seems more of a plot contrivance than anything else. why would anyone want to be a fractional person in the first place?
  7. It's very much a recent thing to define "polyamourous" as being specific to "romantic relationships". The person who coined the term is on record as saying they intended "amorous" to have it's regular meaning of "sexual". With this FAQ, from 1997 not mentioning romance at all. (If it's anywhere it would be as a subset of "emotional".)
  8. This appears to use yet another definition of "alterous". Not sure how well these would apply to people who are demi, quoi or disagree with the definitions given. The definitions appear to be somewhere "asymmetric". Sexual Attraction: The desire to have sex/perform sexual acts with someone. Rather than desire for a sexual relationship. Romantic Attraction: The desire to have a romantic relationship/to do romantic things with someone. What are "romantic things"? Sensual Attraction. The desire to give or receive touch. e.g. cuddling. kissing, holding hands, etc. All of those being romantic coded. Aesthetic Attraction: When you are attracted to someone's appearance. Alterous Attraction: To desire a deep, emotional bond with someone but not in a romantic way. There's also a rather obvious flaw with the second part.
  9. The term dysphoria is actually rather general. Most references are about gender, often also physical rather than social. Personally I don't see that much difference between trying to fit into an amantonormative society or a cisnormative one. In both cases there's the mismatch of "social paradigms". Even though the details differ.
  10. This kind of relationship may or may not be "platonic". Depending on if the term is being used to mean "non physical" or "non sexual". With the additional complication being that kissing may or may not be sexual. IMHO how "romantic" it might be depends more on how much the people involved identify as a couple. Which isn't stated. It's not something I would especially want. Maybe without the bed sharing. TBH I'm quite ambivalent about if this is called a "romantic friendship" or "QPR".
  11. I find couple culture quite intimidating and alienating. Whilst also pervasive, even far beyond (romantic) relationships. e.g. the "split into pairs" meme which commonly appears in education and training.
  12. I wonder if this is especially common in English speaking countries where terms like boyfriend and girlfriend are common euphemisms for romantic partner.
  13. I'd have though if there were a need for a term to describe such relationships it would be expressed by allo aces. AFAIK they use "romantic", to describe such relationships. What I think is more lacking is recognition (and terms to describe) non-romantic sexual relationships. The adjective form of "friend" is "friendly". With platonic lacking an obvious noun form. I don't understand how these words have become linked.
  14. The definition "platonic" meaning either "non sexual" or "non physical" is what you typically find in English language dictionaries. The usual way it's associated with friendship is the term "platonic friend". The notion of "platonic" meaning "friendship" appears to have originated within the ace community. Plato never made use of the term. TBH it has about as much to do with him as "romantic" has to do with the Romans It can be used for both "in between A and B" and "neither A nor B" which are somewhat different.
  15. Is this London Group you mean? Which dosn't appear that active and currently unable to offer ace, rather than aspec, events. AUREA lists a group in New Jersey (which may be the New York one). This also does not appear to be especially active either.
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