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  1. This has been cancelled due to low numbers. At the moment Saturday 14th is still on and will access the numbers next week.
  2. Sorry, I've had to rearrange the Egg meet to Saturday 14th December instead of 30th November due to unforeseen family stuff. Maybe it can be our Xmas meet! Xmas jumpers recommended but by no means compulsory! Please remember to RSVP for the Sugar and Dice meet on Sunday 8th December, thanks!
  3. Sorry! North West England it stands for!! This is only a suggestion for those who feel able to do so, and no pressure on anyone who at present can't: Some of you might be aware of the costs of running a Meet-Up group (this group would not run without the Meet-Up platform). The latest bill was £90 / 6 month period. The exchange rate has not helped matters. Now, I've always had the attitude that I refuse to charge at the expense of putting people off joining or attending (you will notice that other Meet-Up groups have official charges for joining and/or RSVPing to events). I've always prefered to encourage people to get together (that is the purpose of Meet Up in my eyes) and not put up any barriers to anyone. This is why I'm only suggesting a voluntary contribution of £1 per attended meet (but feel free to be flexible for your own needs with this) towards the meetup organiser subscription costs (in person or contact me directly otherwise). I am also a volunteer who is an unemployed student, so any support would be greatly appreciated. But I stress there is no compulsory requirement.
  4. Next meets: Saturday 30th November 1:30pm at the Egg Cafe, Liverpool Sunday 8th December 2pm at Sugar and Dice. Please rsvp by end of November so I can book a suitably sized table. Thanks 😁 Any problems on the day my number is 07594607252
  5. Hi everyone, Tomorrow's Egg meet is cancelled due to low numbers. I will try a different day of the week and reschedule. If you have a suggestion for a particular evening please let me know as we can try it! And a polite reminder to rsvp for Sugar and Dice on Sunday 10th November asap so I can book an appropriately sized table. Thanks! Lianne 🙂
  6. Sunday 10th November 2019 2pm Sugar and Dice Board Game Cafe in Liverpool. Please RSVP by end of October for booking numbers. Any problems on the day 07594607252. Note: Next Liverpool A-Spec Social Tuesday 29th October 7pm Egg Cafe, Liverpool.
  7. I thought I'd share this "poem" I wrote inspired by my latest squish. I say "poem" because I'm more interested in the therapeutic aspects of creative arts than the rules and regs. I haven't yet given it a name, or I might leave it untitled on purpose due to socety's sidelining of close friendships: Are we all friendship-starved? In a romance obsessed society that puts emphasis on the item as an independent one, where has the best friend gone, or the childhood-mates once so close? Have we grown up from friendships to adult relationships? If that is the case I’d rather not grow up! “Romance” with my “other half” all from a double-attraction stance that stands as the sole criteria for love, companionship, connection, life… but in its shadow is its loneliness of separated, isolated independence, a heart’s dark, unspoken sickness, that when I get one moment of friendship I realise how seriously starved I am.
  8. I've finally got my head around my October diary 😁: Saturday October 12th 2pm at Egg Cafe Tuesday October 29th 7pm at Egg Cafe. I am hoping to schedule the next Sugar and Dice meet in November, though details tbc. As usual my number on the day is 07594607252 Hope to see some of you there, Lianne
  9. I've started just to shrug and say queersexual for my sexual attraction. Technically speaking I'm heterosexual but my aesthetic attraction is seriously homo-leaning that causes a certain amount of chaos, so much so that at one point I thought I was gay. Unless anyone knows a better descriptor! I'm definitely aromantic though, no doubts about that!

    1. aro_elise


      i experience aesthetic and platonic attraction to plenty of girls but i identify as completely heterosexual, always have.  i identify as queer since i'm aro.

    2. DogObsessedLianne


      I think what it really comes down to is the question of "do you just want to admire from a far, or do you then desire to do anything actively, though then of course it gets into the question of grey-attraction or general attraction. It's generally been quite a difficult task to work out what's what in general double-allo society, but I think I'm slowly getting there eventually - I see light at the end of the tunnel in terms of self awareness!!!!

  10. I do relate to the difficulties with general labels also as none seemed to fit and just leads to people misunderstanding, though I'm using queer more and more. They are definitely different, though I can see why those with matching attractions can't distinguish, for example a heteroaesthetic heteromantic heterosexual hetero through and through will probably not see any difference for example, and the same for generally bi, gay or anything else, and I understand that. I have a much more identity with my aromantism and panaesthetic aspects though because they affect my day to day life most, which I think is the question that is relevant for how strongly someone identifies - it's relevant to how it affects day to day life and how different it is from the social "norm"
  11. Once I realised that all my previous experiences in relationships were related to me being aro and not necessarily ace made a big difference. I was putting down my repulsion to kissy kissy romantic belonging to being ace but now put it down more accurately to aro. Now as for my sexual attraction I know I'm at least demisexual, though it doesn't fully fit. I know it's definitely not obvious and I don't see anyone as "hot or sexy" and definitely not as others describe, but there's a definite "physiological interest" so not sure whether that's heterosexual or grey-heterosexual. I usually just say greysexual. It also doesn't help matters that I'm strongly panaesthetic, so much so that I actually thought I was gay at first because I have a particular attraction to the beauty of women (though don't want to sleep with or date them being realistic).
  12. Well we mutually decided that it wasn't working. Thankfully she had also come to a similar conclusion though much more reluctantly. I totally agree with the couple-based cogs in the capitalist machine idea, the whole of society (at least here in the UK and similar places) is based on couplings.
  13. It would be really good to get these stories into print in an anthology of some sort. There is a massive offline aromantic gap in the sexuality bookshelves and I was asked by the lady who served me at the local alternative bookstore if I knew of any good titles. It would really be good to have some sort of not for profit community effort to get our stories offline and more visible at a local level. I will personally have a look at your link in the coming week and will try and contribute myself.
  14. I got talking to the lady at a local alternative bookstore in Liverpool about the lack of books on aromantism. It started off because I was buying an asexual based anthology book and she asked me if I knew of anymore. I pointed out that even more thin on the ground is books on aromantism (irrespective of the sexual orientation). In fact, I think I've only come across one feeble kindle book that I actually sent back for a refund it was so bad. Has anyone else found any good titles on aromantism that I could recommend to this bookstore? She did actually suggest I write one, and I wouldn't rule out editing a community effort to get an aromantism anthology/information book together, especially as there's a massive aromantic gap on the sexuality bookshelves. Would anyone be interested in working with me on this? It would be good to have contributors and design help from across the aromantic community irrespective of sexual attraction (in fact the more variety of experiences the better). There seems to be a lack of offline awareness in this regard. What's people's initial thoughts about this?
  15. I understand that there's so many sides to the issue and there's no clear answer to it. It would be great if there was so many of us to have our own groups all over the place, and definitely we need more aromantic awareness though that's another issue. Actually we need more awareness in the difference between romantic attraction and sexual attraction, and it will slowly seep through society as technically speaking you can have any combination of the two (and it's my personal belief that it's more common than we think esp with monoromantic bisexuals or biromantic monosexuals for crude example), so perhaps we should be doing more to highlight mismatched attractions of all types rather than aromantism on it's own (as indeed every conversation I have when I mention my aromantism leads to just that topic). Sometimes this is very much from an alloromantic asexual perspective and that does need to change. It is always difficult to know what's best to do at local offline level as there's so many aspects that need to be addressed. My experience running an a-spec group is that there's so much variation in personal experiences that people are often confused by exactly what they experience. It's unfortunate that many come across asexuality first before even hearing about aromantism (again not saying it shouldn't change), but that is also across the board as my friend will describe something as homosexuality when in reality she is talking about homoromantism. I originally thought I was bi/panromantic asexual mainly because I'm highly sensitive to aesthetic beauties that I was pinpointing down wrongly as romantic attraction (I originally before knowing about asexuality thought any aesthetic attraction was sexual attraction and how wrong was I), and most of my problems during previous sexual encounters was really down to the romantic kissy nature mixed up with the "loving sexual embrace" described as sexual attraction by nearly everyone, so I misidentified this as asexuality (but with a lot of questions that led me to getting my ear bitten off multiple occasions on Aven). I just give this overview of my experience because it shows how some people know there's an A in there somewhere but can be a little confusing about what exactly they experience. And in that situation an aromantic allosexual could help a person with a similar confusion. So unfortunately it is complicated. And really, surely it is good for any group to improve it's stance. You could argue with your arguments that we need specifically bisexual groups (and then you have the issue of aromantic bisexuals or biromantic asexuals, or even another mismatched orientation), and the answer is most probably yes there is a need but it is all highly complicated and difficult.
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